In the Zone
Geschrieben von Jaglom Shrek [Amb] am 07. Dezember 2001 03:41:54:
Als Antwort auf: CURRENT RULINGS UPDATE 12/05/01 geschrieben von Jaglom Shrek [Amb] am 06. Dezember 2001 18:56:46:
> > * In the Zone - For this incident, the points you score during a turn
>> are the net total of positive and negative points scored. The points
>> that do not count toward winning are the last positive points scored
>> during a turn in which you score more than 50 points.
>
>> * You are affected by both Intermix Ratio and In the Zone. You solve a
>> mission for 30 points and earn a Ressikan Flute with 9 Music personnel
>> in play. Your actual score is 75. For In the Zone, 25 Ressikan Flute
>> points do not count toward winning, for a "winning score" of 50. For
>> Intermix Ratio, 15 points do not count towards winning, for a "winning
>> score" of 60.
>
>That could make for some convoluted bookkeeping, and some
>potentially hard to resolve (for the TD) arguments. Ressikan Flute
>seems particularly thorny, since the points on it change constantly.
Sorry, but this is the simplest solution we could come up with. We
don't feel that it's really any worse than keeping track of STAs'
various genders and classifications.
>If four of my nine Music personnel die, do I lose 20 winning points,
>or can I choose to lose the excess?
Use a LIFO basis (last in, first out): take the lost points off the
points that don't count first. In the above case, only 5 of your
remaining Flute points now don't count.
>What about if I play some
>extra copies of some of those personnel (since only one copy of
>each personnel can score points) - can I choose to designate one
>of the newer copies (who didn't score the original points) as the
>points-scorer and adjust the winning total accordingly.
Nope. This is one case in which the order you play the personnel is
going to count. They aren't the ones that fetched you the original 45
points, so their points are not the ones that don't count.
>Or (and this seems the easiest answer, thoung I don't like it for any
>other reason), is the Ressikan Flute permanently marked with a '-
>25 points for the purpose of winning' flag?
No. You scored 45 Flute points, of which 25 don't count at the start.
Those are the excess over 50 that scored in one turn. if you lose
some of the points scored by those original 9 personnel (because some
of them die), you are losing the ones that were "excess". LIFO.
>Do people in a temporally rifted ship contribute to the Ressikan
>Flute total?
No. They are in play for uniqueness only -- recent ruling.
>(although they are in play, they are also outside of time
>and IIRC cannot affect/ be affected by other cards, eg
>Turrel/Treaties, Anti-Time Anomaly.) If all my musicians disappear,
>does the Ressikan Flute drop to zero points, and if so, do they 're-
>score' the points when they re-appear?
Yes and yes.
>For example (assuming above): I solve Covert Installation for 35 and
>retrieve a Ressikan Flute. With 10 music personnel in play, the RF
>is worth 50. My opponent reveals In the Zone so that 35 RF points
>do not count for winning. On my next turn I play Temporal Rift on a
>ship full of my music personnel to remove them from play, reducing
>RF's points to zero (and my score to 35). I then play AU Door to
>nix the TR and my musicians return to the timeline, immediately
>scoring 50 points, bringing me to a total of 85.
Seems like that is the way it would work, because "scoring points" is
defined as any change in your score, positive or negative. Granted,
losing points that you already scored is not exactly the same as
scoring negative points from a card that says "you lose 5 points",
but for gameplay purposes that is the way we have always treated it.
Note that if you Rifted the ship during the same turn you got the
Flute, your net points that turn would be less than 50 anyway, so In
the Zone would not affect those points. Yes, it's a loophole. But I
don't see any other consistent way to handle it, and it does require
you to have both a Rift and an AU Door accessible. So it at least
makes the cheese more trouble to pull off.
--
Jolan tru,
Major Rakal
(Kathy McCracken)
Tal Shiar Agent and Star Trek CCG Intelligence Officer
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